Romney vs. Obama, Round 1

Posted: October 7, 2012 by GeeOhPeeved in Uncategorized
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While I could wish that the questions were a bit tougher, or that it was more rigidly structured, I suppose I’m satisfied with this debate if for no other reason than the solid “W” Mitt walked away with.  To read the transcript for yourself, head over here.

Romney: You’ve been president four years. You said you’d cut the deficit in half. It’s now four years later. We still have trillion-dollar deficits. The CBO says we’ll have a trillion-dollar deficit each of the next four years.

Ouch, that’s gotta hurt.  Romney needs to make sure this president’s astounding fiscal irresponsibility stays in the spotlight.  It’s just one of several points he needs to keep hammering the POTUS on in the final days before the election.

Lehrer: Mr. President?  About the idea that in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts.

But — but Mr. President, you’re saying in order to — to get the job done, it’s got to be balanced. You’ve got to have.

If there was ever any doubt that Mr. Lehrer was biased in favor of the president, it should have evaporated about the time you heard that.  ‘Uh, Mr. President, here’s your response, since you seem to be unable to fashion an intelligent rebuttal on your own.

Don’t worry, Lehrer, Barry may be a bit slow some times, but so long as you point the way  (a couple of times, apparently), he’ll get there in time:

Obama:  If — if we’re serious, we’ve got to take a balanced, responsible approach.”

Good.  Now sit…stay…roll over..  Very good,  Mr. President, that’s a good boy!

Romney:  First of all, the Department of Energy has said the tax break for oil companies is $2.8 billion a year. And it’s actually an accounting treatment, as you know, that’s been in place for a hundred years. Now…

OBAMA: It’s time to end it.

ROMNEY: And in one year, you provided $90 billion in breaks to the green energy world.

Now, I like green energy as well, but that’s about 50 years’ worth of what oil and gas receives.

But don’t forget, you put $90 billion, like 50 years’ worth of breaks, into — into solar and wind, to Solyndra and Fisker and Tester and Ener1. I mean, I had a friend who said you don’t just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers, all right?

Now, I’m against subsidies in general, but Romney’s point is a good one:  why vilify a subsidy that actually does some good, when the President himself funneled much more expensive subsidies to failing “green” companies?

Obama’s reply runs about 3 minutes (two minutes fifty seven seconds), and was without interruption.  When Romney started his rebuttal, he was interrupted four times, and was cut off at two minutes twenty-three seconds.

Obama: Social Security is structurally sound

Really?  Really?  Should we go into the misuse of the social security “trust fund?”  Social Security reaching the point where it’s paying out more than it takes in?

And the reason she could be independent was because of Social Security and Medicare.  She had worked all her life, put in this money, and understood that there was a basic guarantee, a floor under which she could not go.

At this point, he invokes his grandmother; you know, the one he described as a typical racist white person.  Does he really not get it, though?  Is the leader of the free world that dense?  She isn’t independent, she’s dependent on the government to send her a check every month.  She didn’t put that money into the system, it was taken from her!

It’s worth noting that Obama ran long again and was allowed to finish uninterrupted. This will be the last time I bother pointing out times and interruptions; Mr. Lehrer generally allows Obama to finish his points, but has no hesitation over interrupting Romney.  While Mitt does a bit of interrupting himself, his is generally to point out an inaccuracy or outright lie Obama is putting forth at the time.

Obama:  And every health care economist that looks at it says, over time, what’ll happen is the traditional Medicare system will collapse.

Yes…because we all know that the protection of fraud-ridden bureaucracies is one of the primary purposes of government.  Having options is a bad thing, right Mr. Obama?

Obama:  You had loan officers were — that were giving loans and mortgages that really shouldn’t have been given, because the folks didn’t qualify.

Something we can all agree on!  Amazing!  Granted, if you’re looking for the people responsible for the issuance of the lion’s share of bad loans in this country, you should hit up Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.  You know, the people responsible for pushing and passing legislation requiring banks to give out loans to folks who clearly couldn’t afford them.

They go on to talk about Obamacare.  Romney correctly points out that Obamacare is, in fact, unconstitutional at the federal level, though not for states.  Unfortunately, he says he wants to “repeal and replace” Obamacare.  I, of course, take issue with this, along with his insistence that his replacement will include language requiring private insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions, something that could easily kill private insurers.  He later says that he also favors forcing insurers to cover their customers’ adult children, up to the age of 26.  Come on now, Romney,

They go on to talk about Obamacare.  Romney points out that it is in fact, unconstitutional on the federal level, and that he wants to repeal and replace-  I of course take issue with this, along with his insistence that his replacement would include a mandate for private insurers, something that would kill said private insurers. He later says that he’s also in favor of forcing insurers to cover their customers’ adult children.  For all his talk about over-regulation and occasional eloquence in speaking of conservative ideals, Romney is still far from being the candidate conservatives really want for just these sorts of reasons.  He’ll end up winning not because he’s a conservative, but because conservatives had to vote for the less liberal of the two.  The fact that he passed Romney-care is really all the proof you need;  unlike it’s federal cousin, Romney-care is legal, but it’s still an extremely liberal program designed to expand government.

Obama:  And I agree that the Democratic legislators in Massachusetts might have given some advice to Republicans in Congress about how to cooperate

This is in response to Mitt pointing out that, for all his talk on bipartisanship and transparency, Obama passed his healthcare bill without a single republican vote, and most of the discussions that crafted the bill happened behind closed doors, with republicans being kept out of it.

The President’s suggesting that his inability to attract even a single vote from his opposition shows their inability to cooperate just underscores a key translation error between leftists and the rest of the country:  to liberals, ‘cooperation’ means doing what they want, without question and without compromise.

All right, that’s enough for now, but I’ll leave you with what I thought was the single best line in the debate;  Romney’s “Reagan Moment,” if you will:

Mr. President, you’re entitled as the president to your own airplane and to your own house, but not to your own facts.

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